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Found a bunch of niniam. Figured sitting on thirteen nuggets until maybe it has some use (enchanting?) was a pain, so I'd smelt it into one ingot instead. Clever me! So, I made this.
>app ingot careful
The niniam ingot is made with metal.
You are certain that the metal in the niniam ingot has a quality of 87, placing it at 'somewhat pure' on the official Trader's Scale.
You are confident that the metal in the niniam ingot is quite hard.
You are confident that the metal in the niniam ingot has a durability of 70, placing it at 'good durability' on the official Trader's Scale.
You are confident that the metal in the niniam ingot has a workability of 20, placing it at 'difficulty to work with' on the official Trader's Scale.
You estimate that the metal in the niniam ingot has an electrical resistance of 75, placing it at 'not a very good conductor of electricity' on the official Trader's Scale.
You wonder if the metal in the niniam ingot has a thermal resistance of 74, placing it at 'not very good at transfering heat and cold' on the official Trader's Scale.
You are certain that the metal in the niniam ingot has a physical resistance of 70, placing it at 'very good at repelling physical blows' on the official Trader's Scale.
You are confident that the niniam ingot weighs about 110 stones.
You are certain that the niniam ingot is worth exactly 120825 kronars.
Roundtime: 16 seconds.
I didn't mess up during the smelting process (I think), as it kept telling me that I knew the process was going so well I didn't even have to look. (I assume that is a message for critical success. Maybe). I notice the quality is 87. Would this, in theory, affect the quality of the products made it with? What could I have done to jack that quality up to 99?
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Malkien
>I notice the quality is 87. Would this, in theory, affect the quality of the products made it with?
So long as the quality is above 70, it will not limit what you can make. Past 70, higher numbers just mean a bigger bonus to make things.
>What could I have done to jack that quality up to 99?
Mined materials come out at variable qualities, usually 85 or higher. Beyond that, the only way to increase it either flux it (and lose some volume) or mix it with higher quality materials (which is just averages all the qualities).
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So long as the quality is above 70, it will not limit what you can make. Past 70, higher numbers just mean a bigger bonus to make things.
>What could I have done to jack that quality up to 99?
Mined materials come out at variable qualities, usually 85 or higher. Beyond that, the only way to increase it either flux it (and lose some volume) or mix it with higher quality materials (which is just averages all the qualities).
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Quality is the quality/volume average of all the stuff you put in.
If you put in 3 nuggets of 4 volume at 99 purity and 5 nuggets of 1 volume at 80 purity, you'd get:
(34*99)+(5*1*80)/(3*4+51)=93 quality
AFAI what it affects, anything above 70 purity CAN hit masterful. But being more than 70% pure will make it easier to work with.
You can increase the quality by fluxing it to remove impurities. (Second recipe in the books, but you don't need the actual recipe).
Put a single ingot in the crucible, POUR flux (buy it) in the crucible, and then treat it like smelting an ingot. IIRC, you lose like 50% of your material volume unless you have a technique, in which case you lose 20%. So your 22 volume 87 purity ingot would become 11 volume (probably 99 purity). Or with the improved smelting technique, you'd have a 17 volume ingot.
Kaeta Airtag
>>Actually an opinion cannot be changed or corrected. Nice try back of line.-VERATHOR
>>But it can be wrong.-Starlear
If you put in 3 nuggets of 4 volume at 99 purity and 5 nuggets of 1 volume at 80 purity, you'd get:
(34*99)+(5*1*80)/(3*4+51)=93 quality
AFAI what it affects, anything above 70 purity CAN hit masterful. But being more than 70% pure will make it easier to work with.
You can increase the quality by fluxing it to remove impurities. (Second recipe in the books, but you don't need the actual recipe).
Put a single ingot in the crucible, POUR flux (buy it) in the crucible, and then treat it like smelting an ingot. IIRC, you lose like 50% of your material volume unless you have a technique, in which case you lose 20%. So your 22 volume 87 purity ingot would become 11 volume (probably 99 purity). Or with the improved smelting technique, you'd have a 17 volume ingot.
Kaeta Airtag
>>Actually an opinion cannot be changed or corrected. Nice try back of line.-VERATHOR
>>But it can be wrong.-Starlear
Currently the ingedient quality is being factored into smelting, when it shouldn't be. So if you smelt together a bunch of 50 quality ore, you'll get less than 50 quality even if you capped the success. I hope to fix this next chance I get...
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts."
- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts."
- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes
I always wondered.
Master Metallurgy
As a Master of Metallurgy, you work around metal impurities and produce higher quality products as a result.
Does this technique allow you to create higher quality ingots than the impurities allow or is it simply the same as weapon metallurgy.
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As good almost kill a man as kill a good book; who kills a man kills a reasonable creature, God's image; but he who destroys a good book, kills reason itself, kills the image of God, as it were in the eye.
-John Milton
Master Metallurgy
As a Master of Metallurgy, you work around metal impurities and produce higher quality products as a result.
Does this technique allow you to create higher quality ingots than the impurities allow or is it simply the same as weapon metallurgy.
_______________________
As good almost kill a man as kill a good book; who kills a man kills a reasonable creature, God's image; but he who destroys a good book, kills reason itself, kills the image of God, as it were in the eye.
-John Milton
>Does this technique allow you to create higher quality ingots than the impurities allow or is it simply the same as weapon metallurgy.
Same as weapon metallurgy, plus the ability to see material composition in ANALYZE.
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Weapons for Sale:
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Same as weapon metallurgy, plus the ability to see material composition in ANALYZE.
Hunta Talna Kortok, built by Gor'Togs, for Gor'Togs
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/caraamon/home.html
Weapons for Sale:
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/User:Caraamon#Wares
Combat Balance List:
http://tinyurl.com/DRBalance
